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Turkey Trot – November 27th rain or shine

Registration Westmont Fire Hall #1  7:30 – 8:50

1 Miler 8:45

5K 9:00 AM

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14 Responses

  1. Thanks St Eve for the suggestion

  2. I have always been perplexed by this event.

    As I understand it any profit goes to the commissioners private 501c fund. Who exactly pays for the cost of this event?

    I think community events great. But if taxpayers are shouldering the fiancial risk/cost perhaps any profit should go to a fund that is not private?

    Let’s say nobody shows up but they paid for ambulance, fire, police – in the event of fiancial loss do commissioners pay for it out of their private pockets or fund?

  3. What if nobody showed up? Based on what I witnessed today? That’s not an issue.

    There was a nice turnout. It didn’t take a lot of time, everyone enjoyed themselves and Juvenile Diabetes will get some money. Seems like an overall win

  4. No argument with you that it is a worthwhile event.

    My only question is why we can’t get a straight answer on the accounting.
    Who exactly is paying for the cost of the event, and are any profits still being deposited into a private 501c?

    These are relatively straight-forward questions that remain unanswered after 3 years. Similar questions have been asked about the ‘run for tony’ event.

    If you recall, there was a serious issue in the past with missing money from the ‘run for tony,’ and a prior audit of the township raised concerns regarding how cash was accounted for in general. As a general practice this sort of thing should be cleared up.

    The events are great, and it’s great that the commissioners are putting them together. Just pointing out that the accounting should be transparent as a matter of protocol.

  5. “financial” if are concerned about things financial

  6. Thanks for noting the typographic error.
    Care to share your thoughts on the question at hand?

    I am in no way disputing that these events are wonderful. I merely ask if the accounting could be explained.

  7. I went up…helped out and have yet to be paid…how about that?

  8. Guess this question will go unanswered for another year.
    We can’t get a transparent accounting on even a simple charity event. This is a sorry state of affairs.

  9. Dear Perplexed,

    Look at your schedule…..Look at the commissioner’s meeting schedule….see if you have an open date that coincides with their schedule…..attend, and ask your question, how transparent is that?

    Who is we? Have you become a group?

    Mr. Answer-man

    • questions about the accounting and these events have been raised for over 2 years on this blog and the prior blog that was on courier post website.
      by ‘we’ i refer to myself and other people that have posted.

      the questions were asked at a meeting during the debacle over the missing ‘run for tony’ money. The answer given was ‘we’re looking into it’. No other answers ever came.
      Specifically, it was alleged that over 10,000 dollars was missing from an account. Mr. Tony himself posted on the old blog, and he apparently had some issues with what happened to the money.

      In a purported response to this situation, the commissioners formed the 501c to hold money for such events. Since then it has appeared that the 501c is under their control as individuals, and not accountable to the township/taxpayers. In that event, I merely ask for how the expenses are allocated.

      I guess nobody knows except for Randy, John, and Paul – and they aren’t talking.

  10. Dear Perplexed,

    You need to understand what a 501c is and how it may be operated by the organization that set it up. Mr. Tony as I understand, did not. The money raised by the 501c may only be used for the charity it represents, not individuals, as Mr. Tony is.

    Mr. Answer-man

    IRS Exemption Requirements – Section 501(c)(3) Organizations

    To be tax-exempt under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, an organization must be organized and operated exclusively for exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3), and none of its earnings may inure to any private shareholder or individual. In addition, it may not be an action organization, i.e., it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates

    • Thanks for the information.

      So is this 501c controlled by Haddon Township government/taxpayers, or is the 501c controlled by Randy/John/Paul through their ‘charity’

      You see, that is the question — if it is a charity that is run by Randy/John/Paul and not by the township then the question of accounting is perfectly appropriate.

  11. Crickets.
    Once again, no answer to the simplest of questions.

    From what I gather, the anonymoust IRS expert feels it inappropriate that the ‘run for tony’ proceeds be directed to tony… but no answer to the question of the missing money.

    I guess it is easier for the supporters of randyjohnpaul to attack tony rather than provide answers to simple, appropriate questions. What a sad state of affiars.

    Well trot your turkeys. Sorry to ask for transparent and open government. Shut down streets, deploy fire, ems, and police with taxpayer dollars, and sneer at the simple request for accounting. So sorry to ask what is being done with taxpayer money.

  12. Any answer to this question:
    How many hours does paul dougherty claim to work a week for haddon township, and what is the nature of his benefit package?

    Does paul claim to work full time for HTWP? Does he receive full-time benefits in terms of healthcare? How much does that benefits package cost the taxpayers? Just asking since its taxpayer money. Thanks in advance for your reply paul.

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